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Saturday, August 20, 2005

Motley Crue vs The Darkness

In repsonse to Misty's blog post (please read first)...Was Motley Crue a serious band? Yes they were. Though yes, in their later years they moved into the dangerous area of hair metal, but prior to that, Too Fast For Love and Shout at the Devil are two of the best, serious metal records out there. We can call it 80's metal but only because those two albums existed in the 80's and not because they are indicative of bands thought of as traditional 80's metal, i.e. Cinderella, Warrant and Poison, to name a few.

To put it in perspective you have to consider what was currently happening on Sunset Strip at the birth of the Crue. Punk and glam were dying out and heavier, dirtier bands were emerging and taking their cues from the bands that came before. Hence the make-up and giant hair, though the sound was anything but pretty. This was also the era of Guns n’ Roses, a more refined version of Motley Crue. What we don’t realize, twenty years later, is that prior to G n’R no metal/rock sound like that existed simultaneously with the costume aspects of glam . One could say that Motely Crue were pioneers in that time and that G n’R were their protégé, taking the best aspects of the Crue and leaving the schlock behind (leather boy outfits). Of course the argument can go one further to say that Motely Crue were just following in the footsteps of Kiss.

What is ironic about Tommy Lee’s interview on Rhapsody is that he is actually missing the point of The Darkness for The Darkness are not really poking fun at metal bands. They are borrowing all that is great from metal and creating a fresh, new metal sound for the millennia and the metal persona that they are borrowing from is not even American Metal. It’s English Metal. Hello? Saxon.

Tommy Lee perceives The Darkness to be making fun of [metal] rock, but in truth it is quite obvious that The Darkness is only honoring metal and their forbearers. They are reviving a dying art and bringing back the true nature of the rock, albeit they are doing it in stripped spandex, but one must realize had these boys grown up in the Midwest, they would be reviving this metal genre in pink, metallic spandex, not matte pink and white stripes. Here, The Darkness is fulfilling its past while taking cues from English metal culture and societal norms.

Perhaps Tommy Lee projects his distaste for this form of metal because he is not settled with his own hair-metal past? While the first two Crue albums were raw, gut-grinding, headbanging masterpieces worthy of serious reflection, we cannot ignore the beginning of the end of the band on Theatre of Pain and of course the final demise of true metal and its reception into full-fledged, hair-metal on Girls, Girls, Girls.

In conclusion, it is obvious that one cannot compare Motley Crue to The Darkness and the pictures included speak for themselves. Which one of these don't belong? Though they are both metal bands, they each come from competing genres within the metal spectrum. American vs. English. Heavy Metal vs. Schlock Metal and, finally, Hair-Metal vs. Working Class Metal.

For further information check out the entry in Wikipedia it’s pretty informative, however I do not agree with some of the bands they consider hair metal. Girlschool? Come on.

4 Comments:

At 6:31 PM, jonathan krop said...

As much I was loved and still love the first 2 Motley records ... yes I bought them the day they came out too ... I never thought of them as "serious" ... Take the video for "Too Young To Fall In Love" - it's utterly silly with it's Road Warrior meets bad Kung Fu movie style. Of course at that time those guys were wasted pretty much 24/7, so they had clouded judgement.

The big girly-glam influence was in fact imported from Finland via Hanoi Rocks, whose drummer Razzle was killed in Vince's infamous car accident. Motley totaly knocked the Hanoi Rocks look after knocking off Razzle, and it happened to coincide with the release of Theatre of Pain which had Home Sweet Home on it, and thus propelled every band in LA to buy cases of Aquanet, rhinestones and lace. The sad part was, as is usually the case with Hollyweird - they took the look but forgot the substance. Hanoi Rocks were actually a very cool NY Dolls, R&B period Stones influenced band that wrote some really fun rock songs. Post-Razzle Hanoi Rocks solo work for the most part lost that initial magic, though ironically Hanoi bassist Sam Yaffa later joined SF based Jet-Boy and is now in the NY Dolls, filling in the late Arthur Kane's platforms.

GNR was more late 80's, when the glam buzz was dying down and Metallica and others were starting to make a dent ... this was also about the time when bad funk metal was all over the place thanks to Primus and the RHCP.

side note: Axl Rose totally ripped off Steve McDonald's stage moves.

I highly recommend Decline of the Western Civilization II: The Metal Years - and you can see witness the tragedy firsthand.

Dirt is a good read too, and actually made me like Vince Neil a lot more, Tommy Lee however comes across as this puppy dog of a guy, who tries to be a cool guy, but has problems by being a bit of an idiot and in having anger management issues. I think if he learned to laugh at himself and his past a little more, he could achieve some emotional maturity.

I could go off on this subject and it's tangents for weeks on end so I best stop.

 
At 8:09 AM, some guy from new jersey said...

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At 8:15 AM, some guy from new jersey said...

I remember riding my 10-speed to the Seaview Sqaure mall one summer day in 1986 (or something) and buying two cassettes.
Motley Crue's Theatre of Pain and Metallica's Master of Puppets.
Guess which one stands the test of time?

Crue were Metal for about five minutes. Nikkis Sixx's lyrics were mediocre at best (and that is saying a lot compared to most metal lyrics of the time) and Mick Mars could just barely play the guitar.
Master of Puppets basically shits all over TOP.
And yet, at 17 years old, riding my bike to the mall, both albums were equally looked forward to.

Then Nirvana came along and like a "nuclear a-bomb" decimated everything that came before it. Nothing, and I mean nothing, from the 80s metal scene (or much of any other scene) had the chops to survive the crushing blow brought on by Nirvana.
Luckily for the RHCP they were not AOR-friendly until after Nirvana or they would have never survived the fallout.

Bands like AC/DC, Priest and even (unfortunately) Ozzy, sort-of survived because of their real roots in the 70's. Aerosmith falls into this category, I guess.

Death to False Metal!

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At 8:41 AM, some guy from new jersey said...

Ok, upon further reflection, the beginning to Shout at the Devil is pure Metal.

 

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